Hey all: Our project has long-standing affiliations with several organizations, with Red Hat being the most prominent. We are also an OpenInfra Labs <https://openinfralabs.org> project and a part of the MOC-Alliance <https://massopen.cloud/>;, but we don't have any content or affiliation links to those organizations on our website. This thread is about fixing that problem, and doing it this week for a timely need I just became aware of. Read on for details. If you want to participate in the detailed discussion of how and where we show these affiliations, that is happening in this pull request (PR): https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186 You may leave a comment with your impressions, ideas, questions, concerns, and so on; doing so requires being logged into a GitHub user account. If you have any questions about this process and how to do anything, feel free to email me, or find me on the Operate First Slack <https://join.slack.com/t/operatefirst/shared_invite/zt-o2gn4wn8-O39g7sthT... if that is easier for you. We want to make these changes to reflect our long-standing affiliations, and I want to make sure you all know about and understand these affiliations, and have a chance to raise any questions or concerns before the change goes live. There is a publication going out Very Soon (Red Hat Research Quarterly) that will have a reference to Operate First in the context of the MOC-Alliance. We need to have the visible affiliation live by then. By visible, the current idea is to have it in the footer of the website on level with the Red Hat logo. Here is the process for the next few days to get this live in time: 1. Discuss the addition in the PR #186 <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186>;, raise anything needing wider community input here on this list. 2. Remind this list about the discussion in the pull request as it progresses and comes to a close. - This may be a non-controversial addition, but we need to have the chance to have this discussion and make sure there are no blockers (-1) to address. - As always, if there are blockers, we will work diligently as a community to resolve them in a timely way. 3. Go live with changes by the end of this week. - Coincides with incoming attention from MOC-Alliance and OpenInfra Foundation publicity efforts. So far I see these as possible questions folks might care about: - Should we change the way the Red Hat logo appears? - Such as grouping all the logos together and removing the "possession of Red Hat" language? - Making the logos all the same size implies this is more than a Red Hat project, which is an explicit goal. - We need better artwork for both logos, we are working on that. - We should likely write an affiliate page, with sections about each affiliation. For example, while an OS-Climate logo doesn't belong in the footer of the website, it would belong on an "Affiliated Communities and Organizations" page. That's what I've got! Kind regards, - Karsten -- Karsten Wade [he/him/his] | Principal Community Architect | @quaid Red Hat Open Source Program Office (OSPO) : @redhatopen The Open Source Way : https://theopensourceway.org Operate First : https://operate-first.cloud

Should the OIF logo be added as well?

Amy On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:37 PM Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Thorsten did a second version (PR#187 > <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/187>) > using approved all-white logos for the black background, I think it looks > pretty good (preview here > <https://deploy-preview-187--operate-first-cloud.netlify.app/>;, scroll > to the bottom.) > > I've had a few ideas for how that can be a bit better, and the attached > screenshot shows that idea. The new Affiliations link would go to a page > that explains the relationship with each affiliate. > > What do you think? Comments welcome here or in pull request #186 > <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186> > > - Karsten > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:30 PM Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> Hey all: >> >> Our project has long-standing affiliations with several organizations, >> with Red Hat being the most prominent. We are also an OpenInfra Labs >> <https://openinfralabs.org> project and a part of the MOC-Alliance >> <https://massopen.cloud/>;, but we don't have any content or affiliation >> links to those organizations on our website. >> >> This thread is about fixing that problem, and doing it this week for a >> timely need I just became aware of. Read on for details. >> >> If you want to participate in the detailed discussion of how and where >> we show these affiliations, that is happening in this pull request (PR): >> >> https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186 >> >> You may leave a comment with your impressions, ideas, questions, >> concerns, and so on; doing so requires being logged into a GitHub user >> account. If you have any questions about this process and how to do >> anything, feel free to email me, or find me on the Operate First Slack >> <https://join.slack.com/t/operatefirst/shared_invite/zt-o2gn4wn8-O39g7sthT... >> if that is easier for you. >> >> We want to make these changes to reflect our long-standing affiliations, >> and I want to make sure you all know about and understand these >> affiliations, and have a chance to raise any questions or concerns before >> the change goes live. >> >> There is a publication going out Very Soon (Red Hat Research Quarterly) >> that will have a reference to Operate First in the context of the >> MOC-Alliance. We need to have the visible affiliation live by then. By >> visible, the current idea is to have it in the footer of the website on >> level with the Red Hat logo. >> >> Here is the process for the next few days to get this live in time: >> >> >> 1. Discuss the addition in the PR #186 >> <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186>;, >> raise anything needing wider community input here on this list. >> 2. Remind this list about the discussion in the pull request as it >> progresses and comes to a close. >> - This may be a non-controversial addition, but we need to have the >> chance to have this discussion and make sure there are no blockers (-1) to >> address. >> - As always, if there are blockers, we will work diligently as a >> community to resolve them in a timely way. >> 3. Go live with changes by the end of this week. >> - Coincides with incoming attention from MOC-Alliance and >> OpenInfra Foundation publicity efforts. >> >> So far I see these as possible questions folks might care about: >> >> - Should we change the way the Red Hat logo appears? >> - Such as grouping all the logos together and removing the >> "possession of Red Hat" language? >> - Making the logos all the same size implies this is more than a >> Red Hat project, which is an explicit goal. >> - We need better artwork for both logos, we are working on that. >> - We should likely write an affiliate page, with sections about each >> affiliation. For example, while an OS-Climate logo doesn't belong in the >> footer of the website, it would belong on an "Affiliated Communities and >> Organizations" page. >> >> That's what I've got! >> >> Kind regards, >> - Karsten >> -- >> Karsten Wade [he/him/his] | Principal Community Architect | @quaid >> Red Hat Open Source Program Office (OSPO) : @redhatopen >> The Open Source Way : https://theopensourceway.org >> Operate First : https://operate-first.cloud >> > > > -- > Karsten Wade [he/him/his] | Principal Community Architect | @quaid > Red Hat Open Source Program Office (OSPO) : @redhatopen > The Open Source Way : https://theopensourceway.org > Operate First : https://operate-first.cloud > _______________________________________________ > Community mailing list -- community(a)lists.operate-first.cloud > To unsubscribe send an email to community-leave(a)lists.operate-first.cloud >

My thought was that you are under OpenInfra Labs which is an Open Infrastructure Foundation project therefore Operate 1st is as well, so it really isn't OpenStack related. As part of OIF, members of the project can then be members of the Foundation and take advantage of what that entails.

Amy On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 12:40 PM Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 2:58 PM Amy Marrich <amy(a)demarco.com&gt; wrote: > >> Should the OIF logo be added as well? >> > > I don't think so? > > My thinking is that Operate First is not a SIG or project of the OI > Foundation, we are an initiative within the OI Labs. The relationship then > is between OI Labs and OI Foundation. If we graduate or otherwise move to > do something formal within OI Foundation, we would then note the > affiliation. > > As an example, we might form an Operate First SIG in OI Foundation as a > central point for discussions around OpenStack-based clouds wanting to use > Operate First principles. > > How does that sound to you? > > Kind regards, > - Karsten > > >> Amy >> >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:37 PM Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Thorsten did a second version (PR#187 >>> <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/187>) >>> using approved all-white logos for the black background, I think it looks >>> pretty good (preview here >>> <https://deploy-preview-187--operate-first-cloud.netlify.app/>;, scroll >>> to the bottom.) >>> >>> I've had a few ideas for how that can be a bit better, and the attached >>> screenshot shows that idea. The new Affiliations link would go to a page >>> that explains the relationship with each affiliate. >>> >>> What do you think? Comments welcome here or in pull request #186 >>> <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186> >>> >>> - Karsten >>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:30 PM Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Hey all: >>>> >>>> Our project has long-standing affiliations with several organizations, >>>> with Red Hat being the most prominent. We are also an OpenInfra Labs >>>> <https://openinfralabs.org> project and a part of the MOC-Alliance >>>> <https://massopen.cloud/>;, but we don't have any content or >>>> affiliation links to those organizations on our website. >>>> >>>> This thread is about fixing that problem, and doing it this week for a >>>> timely need I just became aware of. Read on for details. >>>> >>>> If you want to participate in the detailed discussion of how and where >>>> we show these affiliations, that is happening in this pull request (PR): >>>> >>>> https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186 >>>> >>>> You may leave a comment with your impressions, ideas, questions, >>>> concerns, and so on; doing so requires being logged into a GitHub user >>>> account. If you have any questions about this process and how to do >>>> anything, feel free to email me, or find me on the Operate First Slack >>>> <https://join.slack.com/t/operatefirst/shared_invite/zt-o2gn4wn8-O39g7sthT... >>>> if that is easier for you. >>>> >>>> We want to make these changes to reflect our long-standing >>>> affiliations, and I want to make sure you all know about and understand >>>> these affiliations, and have a chance to raise any questions or concerns >>>> before the change goes live. >>>> >>>> There is a publication going out Very Soon (Red Hat Research >>>> Quarterly) that will have a reference to Operate First in the context of >>>> the MOC-Alliance. We need to have the visible affiliation live by then. By >>>> visible, the current idea is to have it in the footer of the website on >>>> level with the Red Hat logo. >>>> >>>> Here is the process for the next few days to get this live in time: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Discuss the addition in the PR #186 >>>> <https://github.com/operate-first/operate-first.github.io/pull/186>;, >>>> raise anything needing wider community input here on this list. >>>> 2. Remind this list about the discussion in the pull request as it >>>> progresses and comes to a close. >>>> - This may be a non-controversial addition, but we need to have >>>> the chance to have this discussion and make sure there are no blockers (-1) >>>> to address. >>>> - As always, if there are blockers, we will work diligently as >>>> a community to resolve them in a timely way. >>>> 3. Go live with changes by the end of this week. >>>> - Coincides with incoming attention from MOC-Alliance and >>>> OpenInfra Foundation publicity efforts. >>>> >>>> So far I see these as possible questions folks might care about: >>>> >>>> - Should we change the way the Red Hat logo appears? >>>> - Such as grouping all the logos together and removing the >>>> "possession of Red Hat" language? >>>> - Making the logos all the same size implies this is more than >>>> a Red Hat project, which is an explicit goal. >>>> - We need better artwork for both logos, we are working on that. >>>> - We should likely write an affiliate page, with sections about >>>> each affiliation. For example, while an OS-Climate logo doesn't belong in >>>> the footer of the website, it would belong on an "Affiliated Communities >>>> and Organizations" page. >>>> >>>> That's what I've got! >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> - Karsten >>>> -- >>>> Karsten Wade [he/him/his] | Principal Community Architect | @quaid >>>> Red Hat Open Source Program Office (OSPO) : @redhatopen >>>> The Open Source Way : https://theopensourceway.org >>>> Operate First : https://operate-first.cloud >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karsten Wade [he/him/his] | Principal Community Architect | @quaid >>> Red Hat Open Source Program Office (OSPO) : @redhatopen >>> The Open Source Way : https://theopensourceway.org >>> Operate First : https://operate-first.cloud >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community mailing list -- community(a)lists.operate-first.cloud >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> community-leave(a)lists.operate-first.cloud >>> >> > > -- > Karsten Wade [he/him/his] | Principal Community Architect | @quaid > Red Hat Open Source Program Office (OSPO) : @redhatopen > The Open Source Way : https://theopensourceway.org > Operate First : https://operate-first.cloud >